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When I first bought this Mammillaria karwinskiana ssp nejapensis, in the fall of 2015, it was, like most mamms, globular. After the first year it began to appear as though it was going to go the columnar way. Now, It has a pronounced "Y" look, like the very top of the cactus has begun to split into two directions. I have no questions about this, and I have no problems with it. I just thought that you, the members of this forum, would find this as interesting as I do. Well, maybe not that much, but i DO believe you will fine SOME interest in it.

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In December, after I had bought it in the fall. The coin next to it, is there for scale. It is a U.S. quarter. For our non-American members, that's about 23mm.
Forgive the text in the picture. It's something I've been doing to Identify pictures and cactus over a time line. A picture every year so that I can compare it's growth from one year to the next.
I like the way the tubercles have very definate angles to them ... they are not just round lumps.
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You can see in this picture that the cactus is taking on a pronounced "Y" shape...
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... and this is from the top showing both ends of the "Y", as well as showing the flowers it has produced this year. Quite small, they are only about 1/3rd of an inch across, and are unspectacularly pale. And the outer petals have darker tips. I love them nonetheless.
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Dead center of one of the "Y" arms.
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Youd be surpised but Y-division mammilarias, melocactus cephaliums, obregonias do happen, but are very uncommon.
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It's called dichotomous split. Happens almost always with M. Kawrinskiana and other mamms. Stenocactus too
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Potentially all cacti could branch dichotomously, though with most genera it is unusual. I have had one head on a Pseudolobivia do it. As Elieestephane says it is common, or even the norm in some Mamm's, Mammillaria crucigera and Mammillaria parkinsonii for instance. I have even seen "trichotomous branching" where the growing point divided three ways. Some collectors are worried when the plant does it that it has been damaged at the top, but it is a quite normal division of the growing point, unlike producing offsets at the top when the growing point goes blind.

http://zonagardens.com/showcase/mammill ... incushion/

http://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t1102 ... sempervivi
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There an old specimen of mammillaria I cant remember which, that regularly appears at our branch shows that has done this multiple times. It is very big and magnificent.
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cactidan wrote:It is very big and magnificent.
It's funny how a regular number of names turn up every time I make a posting. Yours is one of them. It makes me smile to see a predictable set of names appear, knowing that these people love cacti & other succulents as much as I do.
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I wanted to share my Mammillaria karwinskiana and others taken today in bloom as are a lot of my Mammillaria. :)
Karwinskiana in full bloom
Karwinskiana in full bloom
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M. parkinsonii three head getting to divide again to 6 heads
M. parkinsonii three head getting to divide again to 6 heads
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M. rhodantha
M. rhodantha
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M. pringlei grown outside
M. pringlei grown outside
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cactushobbyman wrote:I wanted to share my Mammillaria karwinskiana and others taken today in bloom as are a lot of my Mammillaria. :)

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These are gorgeous! Love your M. parkinsonii!
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cactushobbyman wrote:I wanted to share my Mammillaria karwinskiana and others taken today in bloom as are a lot of my Mammillaria. :)
#1) i wish I still lived in a xeric environment so that I could expand my love of cacti and succulents into Landscaping.
#2) I've always loved the idea of having two or three of the same species of cactus in one container as I just think that that looks more natural as so many cacti grow in clumps. But man do you have some M. karwinskiana! Did you grow them from seed or did you just buy that many of them when you went to the cactus store? :D
3) I've got some Ferocactus latispinus seedlings that were planted early this spring and are now somewhere between a quarter to a half-inch of cross. if you're interested I'll send one of them (either a "twin" OR a "triplet") to you for the cost of the postage. I extend that same offer to anyone posting here.
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Did you grow them from seed or did you just buy that many of them when you went to the cactus store? :D

Not sure on any of them, I grow, buy, sale, trade, receive as presents and rescue plants. I have more not picture and the Mammillaria parkinsonii was purchased at a store that doesn't sell cactus but was among the house plants for sale. It had three small heads. :)
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Pretty stuff... you can leave them all to me in your will when you die... :)
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DaveW wrote:I have even seen "trichotomous branching" where the growing point divided three ways.
A Mammillaria perbella I have. ;)
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DaveW wrote:I have even seen "trichotomous branching" where the growing point divided three ways.
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Now THAT is amazing.
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Usually most of the Mamm's sparingly divide dichotomously and the divided stems continue to grow for a while before doing so again if ever, but a few Mammillaria species repeatedly branch dichotomously and occasionally as Jfabiao's picture shows three times.

http://www.cactus-art.biz/note-book/Dic ... hotomy.htm

http://lophophora.blogspot.co.uk/search ... 0branching

And as was mentioned earlier even Melocactus cephaliums can do it since they are merely modified flowering stems.

http://www.sbs.utexas.edu/mauseth/Resea ... halium.htm
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I don't have any constructive comments to offer if not:
I'm so envious of all your cacti that are flowering, growing, branching!!!
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