frost damage?
- adetheproducer
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frost damage?
Take a look at the pic I think its frost damage s bit worried about the brown spot in the just of centre between tubercles. Any ideas how improve condition. Its bone dry has not had water in over a month but have had a few hard frosts recently. I have brought indoors and got it siting in a southwest facing window.
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Re: frost damage?
Is this Matucana madisoniorum? Not frost hardy. Any damage will be done now and not much you can do except wait. From the look of it, you'll have some ugly scars but the plant will live without major problems. Though if it froze deep inside, it may wait a while before losing colour and then collapsing.
--ian
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Re: frost damage?
Dont think it froze inside. We had a few nights at about -3°c outside temp but it was slightly warmer in the greenhouse. Hopfully its just the yellowing parts. Its indoors now in a light box. I also brought in my stenocereus pruinosus. All thats left in the green house now is my L.diffusa, L.williamsii. A.myriostigmata, A.capricorne var. Senelis, Rebutia heliosa and G.vetteri. These all seem to be fine but I'm under the impression they are more cold hardy.
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Re: frost damage?
Still trying to figure out your location, so I can tell what "cold-hardy" means to you
Once bitten by the cactus collecting/growing bug, there is no known cure!
There's no 12 step programme for Cactaholics...so I shall just have to get some more!!
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Re: frost damage?
I was wondering about that myself. Would that be the Rhondda Valley in Wales?hoteidoc wrote:Still trying to figure out your location, so I can tell what "cold-hardy" means to you
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My location: Los Angeles, CA (Zone 10b)
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Re: frost damage?
The "brown spot" in the middle looks like a bud.
Buying a cactus a day will keep the madness away.
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Re: frost damage?
yes to steve and hoteidoc I'm in the Rhondda Valley in Wales UK also quite high up the mountain too. So cold hardy to me means survival in winter with average day temps of 0-5c night time 0 to anywhere as low as -11c also we get a lot of days when the sun does not shine due to cloud cover/mountains so limited day light as well.Steve Johnson wrote:I was wondering about that myself. Would that be the Rhondda Valley in Wales?hoteidoc wrote:Still trying to figure out your location, so I can tell what "cold-hardy" means to you
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- adetheproducer
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Re: frost damage?
Robb wrote:The "brown spot" in the middle looks like a bud.
Thats obviously a bud I ment the bit thats not supposed to be there, take a look at the picture although admittedly it does not look so bad close up.
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My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
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It's all right.
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Re: frost damage?
OK, Producer, now I can really relate & possibly be of help. We've got the same weather, except a low of -14C 2 nights ago -- probably the low for the Winter, but there will be a few of those over the next 3 months!
Once bitten by the cactus collecting/growing bug, there is no known cure!
There's no 12 step programme for Cactaholics...so I shall just have to get some more!!
There's no 12 step programme for Cactaholics...so I shall just have to get some more!!
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Re: frost damage?
hoteidoc wrote:OK, Producer, now I can really relate & possibly be of help. We've got the same weather, except a low of -14C 2 nights ago -- probably the low for the Winter, but there will be a few of those over the next 3 months!
L.diffusa, L.williamsii. A.myriostigmata, A.capricorne var. Senelis, Rebutia heliosa and G.vetteri
take alook at those do you think any of these need to be brought inside. And to be honest with the night time lows I may have been a bit generous we had a low as -17c last year for a breif period in January and its supposed to be a cold one again this winter.
And as the walls come down and as I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
Re: frost damage?
I wouldn't leave the Lophophoras out without heat. A little frost, but not -10C, not even -5C unless you can afford to lose them.
A. capricorne is one of the hardiest Astrophytums but I wouldn't trust it that cold either. A. myriostigma I've damaged at -5C but usually OK to about that temperature.
Rebutia heliosa and Gymnocalycium vatteri should be OK in all but the coldest snaps. I leave mine out all winter and only heat for the very coldest of nights.
A. capricorne is one of the hardiest Astrophytums but I wouldn't trust it that cold either. A. myriostigma I've damaged at -5C but usually OK to about that temperature.
Rebutia heliosa and Gymnocalycium vatteri should be OK in all but the coldest snaps. I leave mine out all winter and only heat for the very coldest of nights.
--ian
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Re: frost damage?
Think they will all be coming inside in the next week or so then its been in the minuses a few nights, not quite -5°c yet but its on its way soon.
And as the walls come down and as I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
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Re: frost damage?
Cheers everyone.
And as the walls come down and as I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
- adetheproducer
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Re: frost damage?
Ok, so I posted this a while back and it was deffinately frost damaged. I brought it in and its flowered but it does not look healthy at all. There is a black shiney blotch which looks quite dodgy, it has what looks like stress induced corking and the lower half is collapsing in on its self. The where some root mealies literally 3-4 big ones and some of their white fluff when I took it out of its pot but I don't think they could cause this damage. On the positives it is firm all around, there is no obvious rot, it does not smell and is dry. I have repotted it in new pot and soil actually gone for a new mix I have used on my Uebelmannia pectinifera and Espostoopsis dybowskii. It consists of granite chippings 3parts, sieved soil 1part (various components including potting compost, natural loam and worm casts) and corse grit sand 1part.
And as the walls come down and as I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
- adetheproducer
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Re: frost damage?
Here are some pictures. Any ideas what is going wrong, is it doomed.
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And as the walls come down and as I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND
My fear begins to fade recalling all of the times
I have died and will die.
It's all right.
I dont mind
I dont mind.
I DONT MIND