No, much to my disappointment it never has flowered.
ElieEstephane wrote:... It must be very rewarding to get it to this size from seed!
yes, this has got to be one of the most rewarding and satisfying things that I have ever done. Planting seeds in the ground and watching them grow to this size is extremely rewarding. Just looking at them gives me a great deal of satisfaction.
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There is an echinocereus specific website but it's in german. You can maybe use google translate.
Could you please upload a closer photo of the areoles and spines?
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ElieEstephane wrote:Could you please upload a closer photo of the areoles and spines?
No problem.
1 Scale
First another shot of the original with my hand in it for scale. The taller is 8 or 9 inches tall and the shorter about 6 inches tall.
P.S. this picture is NOT in landscape mode as the following suggests.
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1.2 Different set
I have two pots of this species. 4 plants altogether. So I'll include a picture of the second pot (these are only 6 inches or so tall) just in case it helps.
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2.1 top
Top spines. 3 shots at an increasing zoom
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2.2
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2.3
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3.1 Side
Areoles from the side. 3 shots at an increasing zoom
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3.2
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3.3
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I hope these help. Feel free to ask for anything else that you think might help.
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7george wrote:... I am afraid you will have to wait another 50 or 100 years.
HA, HA , HA! Hilarious. I'm 65 now ... I'm afraid i don't have that much time left. In fact, I'm beginning to wonder if i have even 1 year left!
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Echinocereus engelmannii? I think i concur ... especially because of those really dark spines on the top. How about you ElieEstephane? You concur?
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Stefan ... you are replying without any indication of who or what you are replying to, so i dont understand what you are saying. Maybe its just that i suffer from accelerated decrepitude , but I just dont get it. Apologies.
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Your plant. The second pot which you have shown is a saguaro. Ive seen mild etiolation on your echinonacatus grusonii behind it, so it pretty much explains why it lacks the barrel-cactus like appearance that young saguaros posses in the wild.
Had my doubts, but the second pair of plants are definitely saguaros. Ergo, if youve sown the same seeds 10 years ago, and got 4 similar plants, this proves that the first pair of plants, which you have requested an ID on, are also saguaros.
Pretty much this proves the no flower and no ofshoot theory.
I intended to grow saguaros, so ive spent a lot of time examining photos on the net of baby saguaros in the event if i were to find one, id be sure that it was what i had been looking for( of course, i got a pachycereus pringlei instead). But now that i use seeds, i can confirm that the plant you have is indeed a carnegiea gigantea.
stefan m. wrote:...so the one on display was likely a hoax.
You mean the cactus on display at the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum? I do not see such a preeminent museum perpetrating a deliberate hoax. It doesn't make sense to me. Mistaken? Maybe. Hoax? I just don't think so.
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True, but in all likelyhood that plants up to five years old are way larger than "no more size than the fingernail length of my pinky finger( im goint to assume around 1 cm) ".To put in perspective, my saguaros sown late may are somewhat as large as marbles now.
While the saguaro theory has some merit, i'm still not buying it although there is some good evidence but it's not complete. I was researching a different topic and came across this: Echinocereus ferreirianus
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It is possible, but... its from a hardware store. Its not that much of a common plant, nor i think itd end up in seed bag at a hardware store. I mean , think about it. its a endagered plant, the kind youd find from growers, but not in stores. On top of that, the barrel/ eriosyce variant is more common . http://cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Ech ... rreirianus
, but I just dont get it. Apologies. 
