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Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:46 am
by Fatich
Nino_G wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:12 pm @ Fatich - I see you are also Tubinicarpus fan :wink:
Yes i like them too.
I love tiny plants! :mrgreen:

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:57 pm
by Tom in Tucson
Any special treatment for;
Maihueniopsis mandragora
Pterocactus araucanus
Pterocactus megliolii
Puna bonnieae
Toumeya papyrancantha
?

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:09 am
by MrXeric
I got my ADBLPS order in the mail a couple days ago. I will be sowing the winter growers soon!

Echinocereus adustus v. roemerianus
Epithelantha unguispina fa. cryptica VM_635 > Castaños/COAH/Mexique
Frailea phaeodisca v. heliosa CS_713.1_363 > SE Isla Patrulla 236m/Uruguay
Mammillaria roemeri
Mammillaria pennispinosa v. nazasensis SB_489 > Rodeo/DUR/Mexique
Mammillaria scheinvariana
Pediocactus peeblesianus
Turbinicarpus saueri v. septentrionalis PP_1363 > Mina/Monterrey/NL/Mexique
Turbinicarpus lophophoroides > Rio Verde/SLP/Mexique
Turbinicarpus graminispinus
Turbinicarpus jauernigii

Aloe polyphylla
Bulbine bruynsii JAA_2301 > Kotzesrus
Bulbine fallax JAA_2168 > Balkoonkolk/RSA
Bulbine hallii JAA_2220 > Kommagas
Cyrtanthus spiralis > Redhouse/RSA
Lachenalia zebrina JAA_2246 > N. Vanrhynsdorp
Pelargonium caroli-henrici JAA_1761 > Moedverloor
Pelargonium hystrix JAA_1138 > Matjiesfontein


I'll also be trying my hand at sowing some bog plants, all native to the States.
Iris versicolor
Sarracenia sp. (open pollinated rubra, purpurea, flava, leucophylla, minor)
Sisyrinchium californicum
Viola lanceolata
Xyris sp.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:48 pm
by Nino_G
ohugal wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:12 pm You sow in a heated propagator and with artificial light? Do you mind sharing some details? I'm pretty new to sowing, but intend to sow Turbinicarpus on a yearly basis.
Sorry for the late response Ohugal. Yes, I propagate all of the seeds in an unused terrarium (150x50x50cm) equiped with combination of regular household linear LED lamps and "Grow light" LED lamps (I use SF 300 variety). Temperature rises to 30C during the day and drops to 20C during the night. Photoperiod is regulated via timer and set to 14 hours of light. I don't use secondary heat sources, all of the heat during the day is generated by the light sources. Night time temperatures is equal to the ambient temperature of the room the propagator is kept in.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:35 pm
by ohugal
Tom in Tucson wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:57 pm Any special treatment for;
Maihueniopsis mandragora
Pterocactus araucanus
Pterocactus megliolii
Puna bonnieae
Toumeya papyrancantha
?
I've just sown some Pterocactus seeds from Elisabeth & Norbert Sarnes (P. australis & P. fischeri). I sterilized the seeds with a hydrogen peroxide solution for about 20 to 30 minutes. I can't recall the percentage, it was either 1% or 3%. Germination temperature was 26°C during the day and 17°C at night. My soil mixture is 50% pumice, 30% quartz grit, 10% akadama and 10% worm castings (wormenmest in Dutch). Particle size is about 2/3 mm. Light intensity at germination was 5000 lux which is increased by a 1000 lux each week after germination. I think I had some issues last time with too strong artificial light, so I increase it bit by bit this time. Germination rates are: P. australis = 20%, P. fischeri = 50%. The soil wasn't sterilized, rather I soaked it in a solution of Trichoderma harzianum & Streptomyces nigrescens. I still had it lying around and is about to expire in 2024. No issues so far what that is concerned. They're in the propagation chamber for about 2 months now.

I haven't sown the species you mentioned, because the seeds are yet to arrive somewhere in January. These are the notes I made in preparation:
NOTES ON TOUMEYA, ECHINOMASTUS & MAIHUENIOPSIS

NIGHTTEMP.: 17°C

DAYTEMP.: 28-40°C

DAYLENGTH: 13-14h

STERILIZE: 50% WATER + 50% BLEACH, 20’
SCARIFY: Needle puncture just above hilum.
I might subject the Pterocactus seeds from ADBLPS to higher temperatures as well to see what happens. I've read a few articles on germinating Echinomastus and Sclerocactus. One can go very far in the efforts to germinate these and care for them afterwards. I'll keep it simple for now and see what happens. I have no experience with these species and it's only my second year of sowing. I'm not experienced whatsoever.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:12 pm
by Tom in Tucson
ohugal wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:35 pm
Tom in Tucson wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:57 pm Any special treatment for;
Maihueniopsis mandragora
Pterocactus araucanus
Pterocactus megliolii
Puna bonnieae
Toumeya papyrancantha
?
I've just sown some Pterocactus seeds from Elisabeth & Norbert Sarnes (P. australis & P. fischeri). I sterilized the seeds with a hydrogen peroxide solution for about 20 to 30 minutes. I can't recall the percentage, it was either 1% or 3%. Germination temperature was 26°C during the day and 17°C at night. My soil mixture is 50% pumice, 30% quartz grit, 10% akadama and 10% worm castings (wormenmest in Dutch). Particle size is about 2/3 mm. Light intensity at germination was 5000 lux which is increased by a 1000 lux each week after germination. I think I had some issues last time with too strong artificial light, so I increase it bit by bit this time. Germination rates are: P. australis = 20%, P. fischeri = 50%. The soil wasn't sterilized, rather I soaked it in a solution of Trichoderma harzianum & Streptomyces nigrescens. I still had it lying around and is about to expire in 2024. No issues so far what that is concerned. They're in the propagation chamber for about 2 months now.

I haven't sown the species you mentioned, because the seeds are yet to arrive somewhere in January. These are the notes I made in preparation:
NOTES ON TOUMEYA, ECHINOMASTUS & MAIHUENIOPSIS

NIGHTTEMP.: 17°C

DAYTEMP.: 28-40°C

DAYLENGTH: 13-14h

STERILIZE: 50% WATER + 50% BLEACH, 20’
SCARIFY: Needle puncture just above hilum.
I might subject the Pterocactus seeds from ADBLPS to higher temperatures as well to see what happens. I've read a few articles on germinating Echinomastus and Sclerocactus. One can go very far in the efforts to germinate these and care for them afterwards. I'll keep it simple for now and see what happens. I have no experience with these species and it's only my second year of sowing. I'm not experienced whatsoever.

I've never heard of using Trichoderma harzianum, or Streptomyces nigrescens for seed starting. May I ask what prompted you to use these?

I've had the best success with Echinomastus using ambient Summer conditions here in AZ.
I just recently ordered some Sclerocactus seed. Having never tryed them, I'm going to use the same method as I've used with Toumeya and Navajoa (Pediocactus).

If I have any success with the Sclerocactus this year, I may try the same method with Pterocactus and Puna. If not your solutions may be of some use. Thanks for providing all the minute details!

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:42 pm
by ohugal
My reasoning was that, instead of sterilizing the soil, I'd make it more biologically active as opposed to a sterile soil which is more susceptible to pathogens. This is what I'm using: https://www.terraaquatica.com/beneficia ... kologic-2/ https://www.terraaquatica.com/beneficia ... eptologic/ I don't grow in baggies and my propagation chamber is not hermetically sealed. Once in a while I take a peek to see what germinated and what not. It's impractical at times. Baggies allow more control over an individual pot. A single propagation chamber fits 15 pots of 6x6x7 cm.

If you have the time it would be great to see some pictures of your progress at a certain point. I'm curious.

@NinoG: Thank you for information.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:29 am
by Tom in Tucson
Since almost all of my seedlings are in a dormant state until Spring, I'll try to remember to post some images of the species I mentioned.

I like your approach to the use of beneficial organisms, and I too am starting to employ a similar strategy. It sounds like a logical method to use for the more difficult species to get past the germination stage with continued and sustainable growth, without having to resort to grafting.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:22 pm
by Vingames1
How was your germination from ADBLPS seeds?

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:17 am
by ohugal
I have yet to receive them. MrXeric got seeds from ADBLPS recently. I think his list is in the same page as this reply.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:58 am
by MrXeric
I haven't sowed the cactus seeds for this recent order yet, but I did sow the winter growing succulents a week ago. For the Pelargonium, all but one seed of one species has germinated. The others have just started to germinate with the exception of Aloe polyphylla (not really a winter grower but included here anyway) and Bulbine bruynsii .

I would say overall germination is good. I did a quick check of my notes from previous years' ADBLPS orders and over half of the seed packets I sowed (64 not including this recent order) had at least 50% germination, with the majority being 70-100%. Only 4 species have shown 0 germination. The old Neolloydia genus in particular has refused to germinate in all three attempts of different offerings from ADBLPS.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:31 pm
by Tom in Tucson
Vingames1 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:22 pm How was your germination from ADBLPS seeds?
Thus far I haven't started any from my last order. I almost always get a great percentage of their seed to sprout (unlike many other seed vendors). In a month or 2, they will strike out the seed which is sold out. That's a good time to place an order.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:53 pm
by Arjen
Some additions to the seeds I plan to sow, probably next week:

Aylostera pygmaea var. RH1069
Aylostera nigricans var. carmeniana MN151
Opuntia Xhumifusa
Sulcorebutia steinbachii JK106
Ferocactus glaucescens
Coryphanta gladiispina
Notocactus roseoluteus
Opuntia sp.
Aylostera kupperiana
Rebutia minuscula var. senilis DH398
Aylostera atrovirens var. pseudoritterii RH202
Aylostera iscayachensis FR1122
Aylostera fulviseta
Aylostera atrovirens var. haefneriana SL63e
Aylostera pygmaea var. diersiana RH327
Aylostera huarinensis KK978
Rebutia Xmarsoneri, red flower

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:04 am
by MiguelCactus
ohugal wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:52 pm
Nino_G wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:35 pm Same here. I buy small batches of seeds (usually 30 seeds/species, or less if the seed is very expensive). If seed is fresh and germinates well (which often isn't the case) out of 30 seeds I will manage to grow up to 5 "premium" specimens of which I keep 2-3 for collection. The rest is usually easy to distribute among collectors.
I just read a short scientific journal on germinating Turbinicarpus and apparently T. lophophoroides and pseudopectinatus have a better germination rate when the seeds are +1 year old. All other Turbinicarpus do well when the seeds are fresh.

I'm sowing the following in a heated propagator with artificial light since the start of November:
Cleistocatus smaragdiflorus (Miraflores/Catamarca)
Cleistocatus. wendlandiorum
Echinofossulocactus albatus
Turbinicaropus alonsoi
Rebutia spegaziniana
Pterocactus australis
Pterocactus fischeri “Pinchera”
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus
Turbinicarpus roseanus
Turbinicarpus subterraneus zaragozae

I order some seeds from ADBLPS which should arrive in January:
Echinocereus poselgeri
Echinofossulocactus vaupelianus
Echinomastus mariposensis
Maihueniopsis mandragora
Peniocereus viperinus
Pterocactus araucanus
Pterocactus megliolii
Puna bonnieae
Setiechinopsis mirabilis
Toumeya papyrancantha

Hi,

I have also read those articles and I was a bit surprised that they assumed the seed dormacy in T. lophophoroides, my experience is quite the opposite, I have sown fresh seeds from my plants with excellent results and the same for some seeds bought to ADBLPS. I have ask to other growers here in Spain and they have experience good results with fresh seeds too.

Re: What are you sowing?

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:09 am
by MiguelCactus
ohugal wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:42 pm My reasoning was that, instead of sterilizing the soil, I'd make it more biologically active as opposed to a sterile soil which is more susceptible to pathogens. This is what I'm using: https://www.terraaquatica.com/beneficia ... kologic-2/ https://www.terraaquatica.com/beneficia ... eptologic/ I don't grow in baggies and my propagation chamber is not hermetically sealed. Once in a while I take a peek to see what germinated and what not. It's impractical at times. Baggies allow more control over an individual pot. A single propagation chamber fits 15 pots of 6x6x7 cm.

If you have the time it would be great to see some pictures of your progress at a certain point. I'm curious.

@NinoG: Thank you for information.
Do those microorganism survive drought? I believe that no all beneficial fungi survives the usual conditions of cacti pots with no organic material, extreme hot and long periods of time. It is a really interesting subject and I would love to learn more from it.

Best,