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Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:58 pm
by CactusBoss
I wonder if some common houseplants like some kinds of Dracaena(particularly snake plants) and ZZ plants would be considered succulents.

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:40 pm
by bbarv
I think Dracaenas that previously were Sansevierias are.

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:30 pm
by anttisepp
ZZ grows on direct sun with cacti, it's very compact, low and has bright shiny green leaves. Winter it spends with adeniums, dry. So it's a kind of caudex maybe and xerophytic. Dracaena draco is a xerophytic and a bit succulent also but it needs more watering than succulents at early age.

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:10 pm
by Shane
It's tricky. There isn't an agreed upon definition for what a succulent is. Any plant with fleshy parts above ground could be considered a succulent. Sansevieria would be, but I don't think other Dracaenas would be. Some other succulent houseplants not commonly thought of as succulents could include African violets, Peperomia and some orchids

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:30 pm
by anttisepp
Dracaena ombet is the only true succulent in genus Dracaena (sens. strict.).

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:54 pm
by nachtkrabb
...what the heck is a ZZ plant?
Does it thrive on music by ZZ Top? :shock:
Do they have a latin name?

Thanks,
Ms. Courious (aka Nachtkrabb)

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:55 am
by bbarv
Zamioculcas zamiifolia.
Never had one so have no idea which music if any it prefers

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:46 pm
by nachtkrabb
Thank you.

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:23 pm
by nachtkrabb
...if that helps: The ZZ plant is listed at llifle as succulent.
https://llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCCULE ... zamiifolia
Habit: It is an acaulescent, perennial herb, from a stout succulent rhizome. It is normally evergreen, but becomes deciduous during drought, surviving drought due to the rhizome that stores water until rainfall resumes.

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:20 am
by Mrs.Green
anttisepp wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:30 pm ZZ grows on direct sun with cacti, it's very compact, low and has bright shiny green leaves. Winter it spends with adeniums, dry. So it's a kind of caudex maybe and xerophytic. Dracaena draco is a xerophytic and a bit succulent also but it needs more watering than succulents at early age.
..and still it often described as a ‘low light need’ plant.. From my own experience; that’s wrong. (The ZZ plant, just to clarify)

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:24 am
by Mrs.Green
bbarv wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:40 pm I think Dracaenas that previously were Sansevierias are.
Isn’t that a bit disputed? That Sansevierias should now be classified as Dracenas? I will stubbornly still call them Sansevierias..

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:20 pm
by anttisepp
Mrs.Green wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:24 am <...> Isn’t that a bit disputed? That Sansevierias should now be classified as Dracenas?
Simply don't pay attention. :)

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:43 am
by Mrs.Green
anttisepp wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:20 pm
Mrs.Green wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:24 am <...> Isn’t that a bit disputed? That Sansevierias should now be classified as Dracenas?
Simply don't pay attention. :)
👍😃

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:32 am
by nachtkrabb
Mrs.Green wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:20 am
anttisepp wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:30 pm ZZ grows on direct sun with cacti, it's very compact, low and has bright shiny green leaves. Winter it spends with adeniums, dry. So it's a kind of caudex maybe and xerophytic. Dracaena draco is a xerophytic and a bit succulent also but it needs more watering than succulents at early age.
..and still it often described as a ‘low light need’ plant.. From my own experience; that’s wrong. (The ZZ plant, just to clarify)
...yeessss... The ZZ plant can survive even low light tortures. :evil: But that just shows how strong it is and how well it can cope with loads of bad circumstances. But will it thrive beautifully? That's the other question. :?:
N.

Re: Would you consider these to be succulents?

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 am
by nachtkrabb
About (the former) Sansevieria trifasciata (let's ignore the renaming for a while):
According to a study by the NASA that plant filters Benzol, Formaldehyde, Trichlorethen, Xylols & Toluol out of the air.
Don't ask me how much or how those get into our air in the first place. But interesting, isn't it?
N. :shock:

Just hope I got the english names of thos e chemicals correctly....