What bother grafting?

Loph · Post by **Loph** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:43 pm

speed. nothing against seed growing, i grow from seed as well, and plants tend to have better form, i agree...but with slow growers, the need for speed is present

A. asterias hanazono (a slow cv of a slow specie in a slow genus)
1 year seedling grafted a 8mm

3 months (not years) later. flowers and 29mm.

lophophora williamsii seed grown, about 6 cm and 5 1/2 years old.

another williamsii. grafted at 21mm in jan 2008, 13 months later 107mm.

a L. fricii grafted at 7mm aug 2007. pic is in jan 2009 (17 months) 98 mm.

Arzberger · Post by **Arzberger** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:23 am

Very nice and fast growing grafts!!
What are you using as stock?

Your Hanazono is incredible! I've never seen any small one with so many buds!

Regards
Alex

Loph · Post by **Loph** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:37 am

in those pics the astrophytum are on a hylocereus hybrid, and the lophs are on stenocereus pruinosus (also use grisues with similar results) and M. geometrizans.

its nice have seed grown plants, but its also nice having larger plants faster

that hanazono amazed me as well! seed grown plants i dont often see flowers before 3.5-4cm. this one started at 2, and in the pic i counted 24 buds i think all around.

Post by **daiv** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:02 am

Arzberger wrote: Your Hanazono is incredible! I've never seen any small one with so many buds!

No kidding! I think the whole inside of the thing must be buds in the making!

kevin63129 · Post by **kevin63129** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:37 am

Great grafts kada.I am with you,I feel the need for speed!

peterb · Post by **peterb** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:16 pm

Some fine day, when I have a greenhouse, I'll be a grafting maniac. My main reasons will be to produce seed for slow species much more quickly as well as try some crosses.

peterb

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:05 pm

well you made a grafter out of me Loph.

I plan on grafting a few of everything I sow that is slow growing or just plain weird for the same reasons as peterb. I never would have thought that I would be getting seed from any seed grown ariocarpus any time soon. But from what I have experienced it's a real possability in the next year or two.

Loph · Post by **Loph** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:30 pm

My main reasons will be to produce seed for slow species much more quickly as well as try some crosses.

those 2 reasons are the main reason i graft as well! especially for making new cv's and hybridizing, it turns a 40 year project into 6 or whatever hehe. its really nice that way!

tony

welcome aboard! you wont regret it....and getting ario flowers in the first year from sowing, is quite reasonable.....no way with seed grown....man they are slow....post some pics when you do

its really addicting making a cm a year plant grow 5+ in the same time. but pick your stocks carefully for your area