May I have a id for this turninicarpus.

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Dodi Russell
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May I have a id for this turninicarpus.

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Which tubinicarpus is this
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Last one blooms pink flowers like T.nikolae
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First one maybe one of the T. beguinii types Dodi. There are a few T. beguinii, T. pailanus, T. knuthianus, T. saurii, T. ysabelae, T. mandragora.

They vary on how much of a constricted neck they show above ground, but climaxing with highly unusual T. subterraneus which is very characteristic since most people don't believe at first it's not extremely etiolated. The long thin stems are evidently to get it above the rocks and grass in habitat

https://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/TURBI ... raneus.htm
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Thanks DaveW. The turbinicarpus genus confuses me a lot. Got the last one identified as Turbinicarpus nikolae

Edit: do you have any information about Turbinicarpus nikolae ?
Can't find a lot online. Most plants I see a grafted.
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Your wish is my command Dodi. The species seems to be dimorphic as are a few Turbinicarpi in that juvenile spination looks totally different to mature spination therefore you may think they are different plants. Click on pictures to enlarge.

https://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/235952/#b

Original description here:-

https://forum.bcss.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=165276

Scroll right down the link below to the article "A New Old Plant"

https://xerophilia.ro/wp-content/upload ... .10-18.pdf
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Dodi Russell wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:08 pm Thanks DaveW. The turbinicarpus genus confuses me a lot. Got the last one identified as Turbinicarpus nikolae

Edit: do you have any information about Turbinicarpus nikolae ?
Can't find a lot online. Most plants I see a grafted.
If you haven't already seen this..well then here's a short read on Turbinicarpus nikolae.

Source quoted at the bottom. Link here: https://xerophilia.ro/wp-content/upload ... .10-18.pdf

In the last issue of Kakteen und andere Sukkulenten [67 (10) 2016] a new species
has been officially described: Turbinicarpus nikolae Šnicer, Myšák, Zachar & Jiruse.
The original plant comes from the late Rudolf Grym collection where it was named
Turbinicarpus roseiflorus. However, although it was a vegetative propagation of a
plant coming from Curt Backeberg, it didn’t seem to have too much in common with the original T.
roseiflorus (Backeberg) Frank 1993. In European collections there are several different plants
displaying this name, which created confusion; more, there was no wild population known in Mexico.
Fortunately, in February 2015, during a common trip to Mexico of Jaroslav Šnicer (an impressive 46
exploration trips to several Mexican habitats), Milan Zachar, Vojtěch Myšák and Zdeněk Jiruše, were
discovered in the Sierra Gorda, Querétaro, several populations of cacti being very consistent with
Grym’s plant.

The plant was described as a new stand-alone species, however, the authors do not exclude that
after accurate investigations in the future it can be proved to be a sub-species of Turbinicarpus alonsoi – which
is undoubtedly the closest relative. However, Turbinicarpus nikolae is not a real novelty
as it is present in cultivation in Europe, mostly under the false name of T. roseiflorus; both are
definitely not identical but probably related. But again, this is a presumption that has to be clarified. And,
as a first step, wild populations of T. roseiflorus have to be discovered first.
All photos by a contributor who asked to remain anonymous.

The authors are, obviously, concerned about the protection of the newly wild discovered species.
However, as plants are easy to propagate in cultivation and due to the rough terrain only 5% of the
plants are in reach, there are extensive numbers (estimated 30,000 – 100,000) of individuals growing wild.
Mining and climate change are the only real threats for this species at this stage. However,
as the authors underline, although not threatened
Turbinicarpus nikolae is strictly protected by Mexican and international legislation.
Unfortunately, an e-bay seller from Krnsko (Czech Republic) uses the momentum and already sells Turbinicarpus sp. (Nikolae) GCG 10892
San Luis Potosí. More unfortunate, the plant is sold under its new name even from the middle of
20141 for what it still remains quite a considerable amount – and this seems a too good business for
such an old plant!

Turbinicarpus nikolae 40 - XEROPHILIA • Volume V, No. 3 (18), October 2016 | ISSN 2285-3987
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Thanks
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