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Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:59 am

I need some information on escobaria vivipara, echinocereus dasycanthus, and echinomastus intertextus. Thank you

Post by **daiv** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:19 am

What sort of information?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:10 am

Information like how big they get, flower color, when they flower,ect....... Just general info.

Dominique · Post by **Dominique** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:28 am

You will find interesting information on the 3 plants on desert-tropical :
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Cactaceae/

For escobaria and echinocereus, I found some extra information on one of my favorite website in French. Here is the translation :
Echinocereus dasyacanthus
Very close to Echinocereus pectinatus, longer spines, also stronger and intertwined, big yellow flower with a green throat, at times red. Frost resistant under shelter -10°C.
North Mexico

Echinocereus dasyacanthus sp ctenoides
A pretty form of Echinocereus dasyacanthus with white spines, shorter and thicker. Super yellow flower. Frost resistant under shelter : -10°C.
Texas/Mexico border

Escobaria vivipara sp arizonica DJF 804
Small cylindrical plant, brown reddish spines. Pink flowers. Frost resistant under shelter -20°C.
USA: New Mexico (Belen)

Escobaria vivipara sp rosea RP 48
Small white ball very resistant. Big pink flower on top of the plant. Frost resistant under shelter -20°C.
USA: Nevada (Clark Co.)

ihc6480 · Post by **ihc6480** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:23 am

I actually have a couple of these in my hardy garden to accompany my Opuntia and Cylindropuntia.
Heres my Escobaria vivipara sp. vivipara (it's a clumper)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/i ... 0_1348.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/i ... 0_1349.jpg

Heres my Escobaria vivipara sp. arizonica
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/i ... /esco1.jpg

The link to Desert tropical that Dominique provided will give more info than I can provide.

Bill

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:35 am

Well thank you for the information. Happy Holidays to all

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:30 am

Another question. Can i keep and grow organ pipes and trichoreus(spelling) in el paso. thank you

Post by **daiv** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:30 pm

I am not positive on your weather. What is the coldest it gets around there? They will tolerate some frost.

Daiv

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:31 am

Well the lowest it gets is 15-20 degrees F.

Post by **daiv** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:14 am

Well here is the info for S. thurberi (Organ Pipe)

Frost Tolerance: Hardy to 25°F (-4°C). The stem tips are frost sensitive and should be protected on cold nights. A styrofoam cup does a good job at it.

And for the other:
Frost Tolerance: Hardy to 15°F (-10°C)

I think it will be pretty risky to try it outside in the cold -especially if the particular plants you get are not accustomed to the colder temps.

Daiv

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:14 am

What would be some good substitutes for the plants?

Post by **daiv** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:55 pm

I don't think you are going to find many columnar cacti that can stand low temps. Saguaros might make it, if you can get one that is aclimated to colder temps. ("Adults are hardy to 14° F (-10°C), protect the seedlings from frost").

You probably would be best off with some Cholla species, which are still rather good sized plants.

Don't rest soley on my word, see what some others think about it too.

Daiv

Post by **daiv** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:01 pm

If you didn't see it, check out the post M.mestre made on Min. Temps under "General"

Daiv

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:25 am

Well I think that I can find some saguaros, because I have seen them growing in my area.