Site modification...

Post by **daiv** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:33 pm

Well I started this with more enthusiasum than I have now. I had the idea to pull out some stats on the search pages about what is lurking behind on the detail page.

I've added a message that says how many images are on the detail page besides the one used on the search summary.

I also added a list of the taxa below species level if there are any.

You can see an example here:

http://www.cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Echinocactus

So I need to work on the display some more, but thought I'd get some feedback before continuing.

Thanks guys!

Daiv

Post by **daiv** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:41 pm

Here is one thing I can't decide on specifically.

Right now it is listed as:

Additional Taxa:
E. grusonii
E. grusonii brevispinus
E. grusonii albispinus

I am thinking about just listing it this way:

Additional Taxa:
-brevispinus
-albispinus

Not sure which would be better.

Neko Bazu · Post by **Neko Bazu** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:01 pm

Definitely liking the additions!

As for the taxa; personally, I think the current layout is better. It just seems... I don't know, tidier? More professional, maybe? I'm not quite sure which phrase best describes the impression...

That said, maybe it's just my pattern-obsession trait liking the repeated text?

Post by **CoronaCactus** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:07 pm

Great feature! I'm really liking this.

Some input:

I like to see it listed with specie name (E. grusonii albispinus)

if using the heading "Additional Taxa" I think the specie can be removed from the list. Seems kinda redundant. If you wish to keep the specie name in the list maybe rename it as "Included Taxa"

Buck Hemenway · Post by **Buck Hemenway** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:41 am

It's better with the name fully listed, redundant or not. I am questioning repeating the main species name in the "additional taxa" list. Shouldn't it be only the additional taxa?

We learned the other night that the species name is actually the whole name. Genus is genus, but the second and addtional words are "specific epithets" as per the "Glossary" page on this site.

Post by **daiv** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:23 am

Hey lots of feedback - great! I will work on this some more.

The species name will stay in.

As I mentioned above, there is work to be done.

I can remove the species listing, but first I need to run through and "extend" the subspecies where the subspecies name is the same as the species name.

In the Echinocactus example here is how they would look:

Echinocactus grusonii
Also Included:
E. grusonii brevispinus
E. grusonii albispinus

Echinocactus polycephalus
Also Included:
E. polycephalus polycephalus
E. polycephalus xeranthemoides

Notice that there is no such taxa as E. grusonii grusonii because the "brevispinus" and "albispinus" are forms (or cultivars). Of course the programming doesn't knowo that so I'll have to go through and add the missing subspecies/variety names like E. polycephalus polycephalus first.

Post by **daiv** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:31 am

Not sure if you guys noticed, but it doesn't count the images listed under the other names. Sticking with the E. polycephalus example, notice that it says "10 additional images"? Well there are 10 more for ssp polycephalus, but there are another 7 listed for ssp. xeranthemoides. So I think I should factor that in. A little more code is required to make that happen.

Do you all think it is obvious enough that there is more info beyond the search page?

It says: "Click on one of the species below for more info." on top of every page, but perhaps I need a "more info" or "view details" button?

Thoughts?

Arjen · Post by **Arjen** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:51 am

I already find your guide very user friendly, however buttons like that will of course enlarge that.
man you sure do a thorough and impressive job!

iann · Post by **iann** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:52 am

Having the exact image count is nice if you can do it, but something like a simple "View all images" link would also be fine. Just to let people know its worth clicking through.

Buck Hemenway · Post by **Buck Hemenway** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:55 pm

I agree with Ian. The images are there, so it really doesn't mattter how many.

Post by **daiv** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:19 pm

OK, I guess the main thing I was going for was to let people know if there are no more images than the one shown on the search page. So the pic message isn't so much to encourage clicking, but to prevent clicks when looking for more images. If that makes sense.

Post by **daiv** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:39 pm

OK I've refined the display.

Now it shows the total number of images on the next page. Then if there are any taxa below species it lists them along with the number of images each one has. I'm pretty happy with this arrangement, but am not so sure I like the "view details".

Anyone have thoughts on the way it is listed now?

Daiv

Neko Bazu · Post by **Neko Bazu** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:47 pm