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Aztekium ritterii... looking for.

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Hello... I am looking for a few specimen of Aztekium ritterii preferably on thier own roots.
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Try eBay sellers, a few times a month there appears one there, but they are by no means cheap
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Slow on their own roots which is why grafting is used as propagation. also they generally are not a commercial proposition for nurserymen to raise or send abroad. Trouble is they are not always easy to de-graft.

Probably Eastern Europe would be best place to find them, but you would have a job importing them legally across national boundaries, since being on Appendix 1 the paperwork is virtually unobtainable for amateurs.

http://www.cactus-art.biz/note-book/Dic ... _cites.htm
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Slow on their own roots which is why grafting is used as propagation. also they generally are not a commercial proposition for nurserymen to raise or send abroad. Trouble is they are not always easy to de-graft.

Probably Eastern Europe would be best place to find them, but you would have a job importing them legally across national boundaries, since being on Appendix 1 the paperwork is virtually unobtainable for amateurs.

http://www.cactus-art.biz/note-book/Dic ... _cites.htm
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Seed is easily to obtain from the well known commercial seed sellers.
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There are occasionally some U.S sellers, sometime soon I’ll compile a list and post it here of all the cactus sellers I’ve found on eBay that are reliable.
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Atozbotanicals wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 9:26 pm There are occasionally some U.S sellers, sometime soon I’ll compile a list and post it here of all the cactus sellers I’ve found on eBay that are reliable.
It's safer, probably cheaper and more economical (if you order other species along with your order) to go to the well know seed sellers. Find the 'Updated seed list' thread on this forum for addresses to go to.
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#1 place I use for seed is Succseed, large selection with field numbers and field data, eBay I use mostly for cultivars or some of the genera that other seedlists lack.
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You can find most international seed sellers and your own countries nurserymen on Cactus Mall:-

http://www.cactus-mall.com/

http://www.cactus-mall.com/seeds.html

Succseed are good, as are ADBLPS, Uhlig and Kohres and I have used Mesa Gardens in the past. No doubt some can recommend the others. Usually the only way you obtain a reasonable sized Aztekium ritteri on it's own roots at a price is when an old collector is selling up or has died, otherwise they are usually grafted. You would probably have a job getting more than one on it's own roots from a single source, maybe more if grafted. In the past collected plants on their own roots came in but CITES put a stop to that.

I did raise Aztekium hintonii from seed when it was first available, but it took a few years, though not as slow as A. ritteri.
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Aztekium valdezii is now becoming available in the EU, but grafted. It is also available as seed, but all the Aztekium seed is dust like.
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Malej Jarda sells many of these new seeds but they can be slow to fill orders, though they often hard to obtain elsewhere.

http://www.gerardo.cz/en/184-aztekium

It can be done though, my friend in the 1960's actually bought ONE SEED of Aztekium ritteri from a dealer as they were very expensive then. It came Sellotaped to the letter and he prized it off, set it and raised a plant on it's own roots which he had for many years.

See also:-

http://forum.bcss.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=88031

The thing to remember is Aztekium ritteri are not big plants, you may get a wrong idea of their size from pictures with no sense of scale, but a plant around an inch to an inch and a half across on it's own roots is a fully mature specimen and flowering. The big ones you see in shows occasionally are usually grafted, therefore overlarge and out of character with the graft probably buried. The other Aztekium's do grow larger.

http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/CACT ... um_ritteri
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DaveW wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 9:03 pm You can find most international seed sellers and your own countries nurserymen on Cactus Mall:-

http://www.cactus-mall.com/

http://www.cactus-mall.com/seeds.html

Succseed are good, as are ADBLPS, Uhlig and Kohres and I have used Mesa Gardens in the past. No doubt some can recommend the others. Usually the only way you obtain a reasonable sized Aztekium ritteri on it's own roots at a price is when an old collector is selling up or has died, otherwise they are usually grafted. You would probably have a job getting more than one on it's own roots from a single source, maybe more if grafted. In the past collected plants on their own roots came in but CITES put a stop to that.

I did raise Aztekium hintonii from seed when it was first available, but it took a few years, though not as slow as A. ritteri.

hintonii.jpg

Aztekium valdezii is now becoming available in the EU, but grafted. It is also available as seed, but all the Aztekium seed is dust like.

valdezii.jpg

Malej Jarda sells many of these new seeds but they can be slow to fill orders, though they often hard to obtain elsewhere.

http://www.gerardo.cz/en/184-aztekium

It can be done though, my friend in the 1960's actually bought ONE SEED of Aztekium ritteri from a dealer as they were very expensive then. It came Sellotaped to the letter and he prized it off, set it and raised a plant on it's own roots which he had for many years.

See also:-

http://forum.bcss.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=88031

The thing to remember is Aztekium ritteri are not big plants, you may get a wrong idea of their size from pictures with no sense of scale, but a plant around an inch to an inch and a half across on it's own roots is a fully mature specimen and flowering. The big ones you see in shows occasionally are usually grafted, therefore overlarge and out of character with the graft probably buried. The other Aztekium's do grow larger.

http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/CACT ... um_ritteri
Thanks for that source of Gerardo.cz, they seem to have some really interesting localities.
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Not sure all their forms of A. ritteri are really significant though. You would probably get the same variation in a single population.
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