Baja California trip
Baja California trip
Hey Guys,
Here are a few highlights (I kept myself to 1-2 photos per taxon) from a trip to Baja California...
Here are a few highlights (I kept myself to 1-2 photos per taxon) from a trip to Baja California...
I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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Great photos Barry
But what about all those other succulents?
Your Cylindropuntia ramosissima may be mislabeled.
But what about all those other succulents?
Your Cylindropuntia ramosissima may be mislabeled.
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I showed too many photos already, so I restricted myself to the cacti!
Regarding that Cylindropuntia, the only other narrow-cylindrical cholla given in the floras is C. tesajo, which has very different tubercle structure. What's your counter-suggestion?
Cheers
Barry
Regarding that Cylindropuntia, the only other narrow-cylindrical cholla given in the floras is C. tesajo, which has very different tubercle structure. What's your counter-suggestion?
Cheers
Barry
I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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Too Many Photos!!!!!
You can Never have Too Many Photos !!
Especially with the quality of the photos above
Looks like C. tesajo to me.
C. ramosissima looks quite different than your plant.
You can Never have Too Many Photos !!
Especially with the quality of the photos above
Looks like C. tesajo to me.
C. ramosissima looks quite different than your plant.
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Huh. I'll look into this more. The new edition of the Baja Flora says that the tubercles of C. tesajo are very inconspicuous, and the spines are absent or only about 1 per tubercle, buuuuut like I said I'll look into this more. Thanks!
If you are itching to see all my Baja photos from this trip, they are shown here:
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If you are itching to see all my Baja photos from this trip, they are shown here:
http://www.sarracenia.com/galleria/g352.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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Definitely tesajo. Great photos! Looks like you went about as far south as the Central Desert south of El Rosario?
Always cool to see Baja photos.
peterb
Always cool to see Baja photos.
peterb
Zone 9
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Hey Peter,
We went as far as Bahia de los Angeles on this trip.
So, would you argue that all the Cylindropuntia ramosissima I photographed were actually C. tesajo? The new edition of the Baja Plant Field Guide seems to suggest the contrary. I paged through the photos at http://bajaflora.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and they didn't really clarify...
A second query. On my link of photos I gave above (and also in the selection I posted here), I showed a plant that I identified as Echinocereus maritimus but which had much longer, curly spines. This was from the El Aguajito area (about N30° 09’, W115° 22’). Do you agree with this assessment? There didn't seem to be many options.
Cheers
Barry
We went as far as Bahia de los Angeles on this trip.
So, would you argue that all the Cylindropuntia ramosissima I photographed were actually C. tesajo? The new edition of the Baja Plant Field Guide seems to suggest the contrary. I paged through the photos at http://bajaflora.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and they didn't really clarify...
A second query. On my link of photos I gave above (and also in the selection I posted here), I showed a plant that I identified as Echinocereus maritimus but which had much longer, curly spines. This was from the El Aguajito area (about N30° 09’, W115° 22’). Do you agree with this assessment? There didn't seem to be many options.
Cheers
Barry
I'll grow it as long as it doesn't have glochids. Gaudy flowers a plus.
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Hi Barry- I am only aware of ramosissima growing in the Colorado Desert portion of Baja, over by Mexicali. The "other" one on the western side of the peninsula and in the central desert is tesajo.
That Echinocereus is maritimus, with super curly spines. The spines of maritimus are incredibly variable across its very large range from near La Mision to the type locale of Ensenada south all the way to Santa Rosalillita and Isla Cedros.
peterb
That Echinocereus is maritimus, with super curly spines. The spines of maritimus are incredibly variable across its very large range from near La Mision to the type locale of Ensenada south all the way to Santa Rosalillita and Isla Cedros.
peterb
Zone 9
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Specifics indicating tesajo in your excellent photographs:
the lack of diamond shaped distinct tubercles
the presence of low, elongated elliptical tubercles
the absent or solitary spine
the somewhat more compact branching habit
the geographical distribution, always of paramount importance.
ramosissima and tesajo do overlap in their range in the Lower Colorado Desert, but hybrids are not known. They do seem to be closely related, but no one has done the systematics as far as I know.
peterb
the lack of diamond shaped distinct tubercles
the presence of low, elongated elliptical tubercles
the absent or solitary spine
the somewhat more compact branching habit
the geographical distribution, always of paramount importance.
ramosissima and tesajo do overlap in their range in the Lower Colorado Desert, but hybrids are not known. They do seem to be closely related, but no one has done the systematics as far as I know.
peterb
Zone 9
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Also, it looks to me like the cristate Cylindropuntia is C. cholla.
peterb
peterb
Zone 9