Hana's cacti

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A_G_R wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:19 pm
Hanazono wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:09 am Several cacti have been planted on the ground. They were covered by winter weeds and I removed weeds in this afternoon.
The photo is one of them, unknown name.

I bought seeds of Ferocactus-mix and sowed in 2003.
The current location is too shady. I will repot this one in September.
I do not know the name but the cactus is 24 cm in diameter currently.
Good morning Frank, I think that is an Echinocactus platyacanthus, nice specimen by the way!
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Having a look again, agreed with Alejandro. Echinocactus platyacanthus.
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G'day Alejandro, Tom & Bryan,

Thank you very much for your information.
Echinocactus platyacanthus grows a huge size someday. I do not know when but I may not be able to see it.

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G'day Mrs. Green,
I found out that it even snows in some parts of Australia. Haven’t thought much about it before, but snow and Australia wasn’t the first combination that came to mind.
Australia is a large country. North end is tropical and you can experience snow and ice in south end or mountain side in south.
My place is south but there are no snow and no ice.
Saw in another post that you only water with rainwater ( impressive set-up btw) . Is it because the delivered water in your area is no good or are there other reasons?
I use three type of waters.

Drinking: Buy water from shop
General use in house: Tap water (delivered water)
Watering for plants including cacti: Rain water

Tap water can use for cacti watering. Cacti collection is my hobby and I use free-water which is no cost for my family.
The above mentioned cross between caput- medusae and myriostigma, have you tried it with it the other way around? With a caput- medusae mother?
Before I started the trial, I got an information which all seedlings would be capt-medusae if you used a caput-medusae as mother.
I did not confirm the information by myself but I used a myriostigma as the mother.

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My weeding has continued.
The photo is Echinocactus grusonii sown seeds in 2000. I was in Wollongong NSW at that time.
I could germinate around 200 seedlings but I donated almost all to a rocal cactus society before moved to here in 2003.
20 seedlings travelled more than 1000 km with me.

Seedlings were in a greenhouse for a while But I moved out them later.
9 plants have survived and 4 of them are more then 60 cm in diameter, all flowering size.
5 of them are bit smaller.

Large ones are forming several off-sets.
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Awesome Frank! I think they grow much faster on the ground than in a pot.
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Hanazono wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:21 am G'day Mrs. Green,
I found out that it even snows in some parts of Australia. Haven’t thought much about it before, but snow and Australia wasn’t the first combination that came to mind.
Australia is a large country. North end is tropical and you can experience snow and ice in south end or mountain side in south.
My place is south but there are no snow and no ice.
Saw in another post that you only water with rainwater ( impressive set-up btw) . Is it because the delivered water in your area is no good or are there other reasons?
I use three type of waters.

Drinking: Buy water from shop
General use in house: Tap water (delivered water)
Watering for plants including cacti: Rain water

Tap water can use for cacti watering. Cacti collection is my hobby and I use free-water which is no cost for my family.
The above mentioned cross between caput- medusae and myriostigma, have you tried it with it the other way around? With a caput- medusae mother?
Before I started the trial, I got an information which all seedlings would be capt-medusae if you used a caput-medusae as mother.
I did not confirm the information by myself but I used a myriostigma as the mother.

Frank
Thank you Hanazono 🙂 So you pay for the tapwater after how much you use then as I understand. The tapwater doesn’t sound drinkable since you buy drinking water.
Interesting that using caput-medusae as mother plants would produce only c-medusaes. I would have thought that they would get at least some traits from the father. Wonder what second generation of such a cross ( meduasae mother x myriostigma father) would have turned out? Probably some reverting to one of their ancestors phenotype?
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Hanazono wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:46 am G'day Alejandro, Tom & Bryan,

Thank you very much for your information.
Echinocactus platyacanthus grows a huge size someday. I do not know when but I may not be able to see it.

Frank

Hopefully yours will flower soon, it has good size already, here mine, purchased as a seedling about 15 years ago https://flic.kr/p/2nzJdRs
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G'morning Bryan,

Thanks for your comment.
I think they grow much faster on the ground than in a pot.
I have never watered them. They grow well without winter protection.

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G'morning Mrs. Green,

Thanks for your comment.
The tapwater doesn’t sound drinkable since you buy drinking water.
Normal Australian drink tapwater.
I was born and grown a different country. The quality of tapwater in here does not meet with my standard.
Some people living in outback drink rainwater.
I would have thought that they would get at least some traits from the father.
Yes you are correct. A hybrid shows father's character strongly normally but it is just normally.

I understand 1st filial hybrid of capt-medusae can cross Echinocactus and Ferocactus.
I need flowers of 1st filial hybrid.

Actually I pollinated Ferocactus x capt-medusae. The capt-medusae was father.
1st filial was just the Ferocactus.

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G'morning Alejandro,

Thanks for your information.
I believe my cactus is same species as yours.
I hope my cactus was in flower soon.

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Hanazono wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:27 pm G'morning Mrs. Green,

Thanks for your comment.
The tapwater doesn’t sound drinkable since you buy drinking water.
Normal Australian drink tapwater.
I was born and grown a different country. The quality of tapwater in here does not meet with my standard.
Some people living in outback drink rainwater.
I would have thought that they would get at least some traits from the father.
Yes you are correct. A hybrid shows father's character strongly normally but it is just normally.

I understand 1st filial hybrid of capt-medusae can cross Echinocactus and Ferocactus.
I need flowers of 1st filial hybrid.

Actually I pollinated Ferocactus x capt-medusae. The capt-medusae was father.
1st filial was just the Ferocactus.

Frank
Thank you Hanazono 🙂 I have a feeling I wouldn’t have liked your tapwater either.. We have ok tapwater but the best water are from wells here. If one have tried that, no tapwater can compete.

Interesting that the phenotype is influenced by which sex is used as mother or father. What first came to mind was crosses between horse and donkey. These are also two different species although from the animal kingdom.
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It has still been in winter in here. I do not have so many jobs for cacti.
I do just minor jobs for the coming spring. One of jobs is preparing pots for repotting. The photo is 5 cm square tubes which is drying after dipped in diluted bleach for one week or so.
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How do you keep the soil from falling out of the bottom of those pots ?
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G'morning keith,
How do you keep the soil from falling out of the bottom of those pots ?
I use bottom rubble which are mixed 20 mm-scoria and 10 mm-pumice.
These materials are reused and so it is mixed scoria and pumice.

These materials are washed and dried before reusing.
The photo is reusing bottom rubble under drying.
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