Creating a monstrose Pereskiopsis through grafting

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Re: Creating a monstrose Pereskiopsis through grafting

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Shane wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 5:33 pm I assumed it was because the area closest to the apex would be the first to run low on auxin. Like if a creek got blocked by something the area closest downstream of the blockage would go dry first
Ah yes that makes sense. Here's some rather recent research, if you search terms from title you can find full paper on the subject

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24711430/
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Re: Creating a monstrose Pereskiopsis through grafting

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Hello to all,

A update from my side😃

1) of corypantha :-
As long as pereskiopsis is working i am not degrafting it.

I am thinking the half part which was getting full sunlight have more monstrose effect than other part which was in both case of corypantha & echinopsis

Growth is vey slow due to pereskiopsis aged & no leaf remain on peres. Also it has to give energy to pups.
Support is also given to this graft as weight is on 1 side & pereskiopsis is slightly bend.
Without support this graft will break.
Side view
Side view
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Pic of 21 sept 2021
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Front part has almost no growth,
Front view
Front view
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This side was in direction of sunlight
This side was in direction of sunlight
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Side view
Side view
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Side view
Side view
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Side which was in less sunlight part
Side which was in less sunlight part
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Whenever i take pup out it will put hole in their so have to use blade to cut pups which are bond to mother
Hole after plucking out pups by force or twist
Hole after plucking out pups by force or twist
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Bottom view
Bottom view
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Some pups which were taken out to root them in soil,
Not given regular water & very less soil
Not given regular water & very less soil
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So as to see if they have monstrose effect
Due to my negligence i am not able to provide them
Prpr area with sunlight ,
Will do this in following month as now is winter

2) echinopsis which was in direct contact with monacantha peres.
Photo of 6may2021 , then degrafted
Photo of 6may2021 , then degrafted
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Maybe this was also the area which was getting full sunlight when it was on graft
Maybe this was also the area which was getting full sunlight when it was on graft
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Up view
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3) red bunny ear opuntia which was direct in contact with monacantha pereskiopsis. :-

Although they have shown little monstrose effect,
But i am not so much interested in this.,
so just put in one side of pot with natural red bunny ear cactus
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4) this one graft has failed many time around 3,4 times,
You can just understand by watching how many time have been grafted,
Ferocactus, corypantha , calochlora graft were put on this & failed to fuse,
Then monacantha was puted after that corypantha grafted on it
Pic of 13 November 2021
Pic of 13 November 2021
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Today pic
Today pic
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This graft will only tell us if it have more monstrose effect. Than 1st one corypantha as it is getting passed virus or whatever from pereskiopsis & directly from monacantha too.

5)
Opuntia monacantha degrafted from directly contacted pereskiopsis.

Is like totally new species , i can't even tell this was monacantha
Degrafted monacantha
Degrafted monacantha
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6) there was 1 more corypantha directly grafted on monacantha peres.
Have shown monstrose effect i.e puping

But after sometime pass monacantha Stop giving nutrients to corypantha, & it was dehydrating,

So i give to a friend for rooting & it was extra for me ,
after it have some growth i will give update here
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7) echinopsis calochlora (don't know real name)
Grafted on monacantha peres. Has failed,

Graft was perfect but i don't why it hasn't shown growth after some time,
It remain of same size, so degrafted it & given to friend.
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Will try this cactus again this summer.
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Re: Creating a monstrose Pereskiopsis through grafting

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Thanks for the updates Jitesh! Very interesting results you're getting!

I lost the grafting season this year to moving and rats and caterpillars eating my Presekiopsis. I'm hoping to try again next season
I am thinking the half part which was getting full sunlight have more monstrose effect than other part[...]
Auxin, which is classically thought to suppress pupping, is destroyed by sunlight. So it would make sense the sunny side would show more pupping/monstrose growth
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Fishhook cacti are like cats, they only like to be petted in one direction
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Re: Creating a monstrose Pereskiopsis through grafting

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An update
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Re: Creating a monstrose Pereskiopsis through grafting

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I tried a few grafts on that opuntia since I had a lot of it, but they never thrived - it's certainly far less vigorous than it's normal version (which is a good stock, Imo). Fwiw, I have an echinopsis in a pot with the monstrose subulata and it's grown normally for 8 years, which makes me doubt it's a contagious virus.

If plants revert when degrafted, this would be a good way to produce lots of a typically solitary plant that is special, ie variegated.
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