Growing Lophophora williamsii from seed

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abhikjha wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:54 am
metsolt wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:59 am
abhikjha wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:58 pm How long you kept Lophophora seedlings into a humid environment in a closed container?
If I remember welly, they were a little over 4 months when I opened the bag. I didn't introduce them to dry air gradually (as I don't do it with my other seedlings either), but in one quick, pain-free motion. Even though they were in a humid atmosphere for 4 months, the soil itself wasn't wet, maybe not even moist since I kept opening the bag several times and it got dry as I was admiring the seedlings.
Thanks a lot! I have plans to keep them longer, let's see how do they fare! So, after 4 months when they were out in open, did you daily mist them.or start following dry wet watering regime?
No, no misting or anything. I just started watering them weekly and kept doing it to this day. Once the summer starts fading away, I'll space out the watering and introduce them to their first dormancy this year.
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Hi everyone, I have a question

These Escobaria vivipara (Utah) are now 9 months old. They're exposed to a couple of hours of direct morning sun and don't seem to mind it. Now, about overwintering, what are the chances of them making it outside, on a windowsill that barely ever gets rain, sometimes snow (but it's been snowing less and less the last few years anyways). Are they strong enough? Should I split them and try to sacrifice some?
Also, when can I expect them to flower for the first time? I heard somewhere these flower after their first winter, but can't remember the source.
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Today is a year since the germination started, both L. williamsii and G. deeszianum from Aiko.

Since late May I've been getting them used to direct sunlight and now they get quite a few hours of morning sun. I'm not sure if I'm gonna water them anymore. Lophophora must only have mineral parts of their mix left, the pot is just about to explode! I'll repot them in the spring.

I kept only 3 Gymnos that had an interesting spine pattern, the rest I gave away. The ones I kept happen to be the smallest ones of the batch.
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They look nice!

But this is how they look after only one year? My plants are dwarfs compared to these after one year...
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Aiko wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:20 pm They look nice!

But this is how they look after only one year? My plants are dwarfs compared to these after one year...
Thank you!

I guess so! Honestly, I expected nothing near this when I first started them. Keep in mind that they were in their growing season since day 1 and they had a lot more time to get this big than those grown in natural growing seasons.
Either way, I am just so happy they weren't affected by the sun that was so extremely strong this entire summer, in fact, they enjoyed it.

I am very thankful that you sent me the seeds, it is a beautiful experience to watch them grow!
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Amazing progression for a year. I love your updates but sadly comparing my seedlings to yours based on time mine are growing 1/3 the speed but that is fine with me. Seeing how fast your lopho have been growing I wouldn't be entirely surprised if you have flowers late next year or on 3rd year.

When you repot are you gonna put them all in their own pots or keep them in groups? I know everyone tends to use single pots to maximize root space but I always find group much more appealing. I would keep them as they are and just pot up maybe 2 sized... they will naturally space themselves if needed over time. This isn't advice btw just interested in what you plan on doing in the spring
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Hello everyone, I am so happy the forum is back on!
I haven't done much sowing since the summer, but below are the some that are worth mentioning.

I sowed Lophophora williamsii, but due to a lot of heat, only 1 seed germinated and here it is. I am guilty of forgetting to water it regularly... It is now 5 months old.

Trichocereus pachanoi is a strain called Cerdanyola, specifically a cross of A1 and A3. I got the seeds from Jerry from San Pedro Mastery. The pic was taken 7 days after sowing and some 30/50 already germinated. Or at least that's how many I counted without getting lost.

And the last ones are Gymnos, also not watered that regularly, they could be a bit greener and bigger by now but they'll get there.
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G. mihanovichii sown last spring, I believe
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I was expecting an update on that pot of lopho
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LateBloomer wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:35 pm I was expecting an update on that pot of lopho
I am so sorry for disappointing :( They are dormant now, not much has changed since the last update, but I will take a picture tomorrow and post it here.
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LateBloomer wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:35 pm I was expecting an update on that pot of lopho
Okay, here they are! It's an overcast day so the colors aren't as vivid, sadly.

They are in the attic now, last watered sometime in October, but barely got any softer. The temperature went a bit below 0° a few times already, but it is mostly above freezing.
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Wonderful healthy seedlings - congratulations! =D>



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Great update… amazing how they barely changed in plumpness
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K.W. wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:40 pm Wonderful healthy seedlings - congratulations! =D>



Best wishes

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Thank you! That is always nice to hear! :D


LateBloomer wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:50 pm Great update… amazing how they barely changed in plumpness
Right? I must say I was just as shocked, but also another bigger Loph (I'd guess it's 3 years old or so, it was a gift) also barely lost any water.

Maybe they received water a bit too recently so they're still holding it. Their last watering was an extremely heavy downpour that happened sometime in late October, which is too late for my liking and I must say I freaked out they would all rot since it was a bit cold (below 10°C I believe), but luckily they're doing fine.
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Can anyone tell me what is hardiness of L. williamsii?
I know there are many factors that play a port in it, but in conditions like a small pot with mostly mineral substrate and plants that have been dormant for 3 months now? They're in a shielded dry place without any frost no matter how cold it gets.
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Can anyone tell me what is hardiness of L. williamsii?
Something between -7°C and -12 °C depending on population origin.
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