H202 directly on the seedlings?
- mmcavall
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H202 directly on the seedlings?
Sorry if I'm asking something is already in the forum, but I couldn't find the specific answer.
I would like to know whether 1% H2O2 is effective against algae or mold that is growing in the sowing pots and almost covering the seedlings. And if I can spray it directly on the seedlings without harming them.
I know that they are not a problem, unless covering the seedlings, which is the case.
I also know that sterilizing the mix before sowing is important.
My method is working well but in the last batch I decided to spray a fertilizer solution over the seedlings, and it seemed to benefit the algae or mold (a brown-black thing) . So now I have to deal with them without killing my seedlings.
Thanks in advance for any input.
I would like to know whether 1% H2O2 is effective against algae or mold that is growing in the sowing pots and almost covering the seedlings. And if I can spray it directly on the seedlings without harming them.
I know that they are not a problem, unless covering the seedlings, which is the case.
I also know that sterilizing the mix before sowing is important.
My method is working well but in the last batch I decided to spray a fertilizer solution over the seedlings, and it seemed to benefit the algae or mold (a brown-black thing) . So now I have to deal with them without killing my seedlings.
Thanks in advance for any input.
- Steve-0
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
I sprayed mine with it a couple of days ago. Seedlings are still alive and growing. I used diluted 3% H2O2 with water about 2 capfuls in half a liter of water. So far the only algae I've seen pops up on the perlite quickly.
check this video out. The guy used straight peroxide to wet his soil mix and start his seeds.
Good luck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tLuhnt5i8
check this video out. The guy used straight peroxide to wet his soil mix and start his seeds.
Good luck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tLuhnt5i8
- mmcavall
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Thank you Steve ! I'll take a look
- Steve-0
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Caveat: I am a newbie at cactus raising from seeds. This month is my first real attempt at the process. I could be doing it all wrong.
However the Sclerocactus are just a few weeks old and now have spines showing @ just over 1 CM.
The other species is Echinocactus Texensis...planted the same day as the Scleros....I think 14 germinated and all are doing well. Like little green pigs. Maybe 5-7 mm tall.
Keeping them warm and moist. So far so good, imo.
However the Sclerocactus are just a few weeks old and now have spines showing @ just over 1 CM.
The other species is Echinocactus Texensis...planted the same day as the Scleros....I think 14 germinated and all are doing well. Like little green pigs. Maybe 5-7 mm tall.
Keeping them warm and moist. So far so good, imo.
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- greenknight
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
It'd not straight peroxide, peroxide antiseptic is only 3% H2O2. Straight hydrogen peroxide is a hazardous material. The highest concentration I could find online is 35%, and it comes with warnings that it will burn your skin, instantly bleach clothing, etc - "always dilute with distilled water before using".Steve-0 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:15 pm I sprayed mine with it a couple of days ago. Seedlings are still alive and growing. I used diluted 3% H2O2 with water about 2 capfuls in half a liter of water. So far the only algae I've seen pops up on the perlite quickly.
check this video out. The guy used straight peroxide to wet his soil mix and start his seeds.
Good luck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tLuhnt5i8
High-test peroxide (85%+) is used as rocket fuel - in contact with a catalyst it flashes into steam as well as releasing oxygen.
For spraying on cactus seedlings and soaking roots, most recommend diluting peroxide antiseptic 50% with water, making it 1.5% H2O2.
Spence
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Correct....I meant he used the 3% Hydrogen Peroxide straight out of the bottle....undiluted with water from the drugstore purchased package.
For those concerned about using rocket fuel on their cacti...
What I've seen in the grocery/pharmacy is in the 1-3% strength range...the rest being water. I gargle with it. Good stuff for germ killing on boo-boos and owies.
Anything over 35% gets DHS involved and I priced 50% grade @ ~$1000.00 for a 4 liter bottle.
85 to 98 % is the rocket propellant and Vernier engine fuel ..only available to qualified purchasers....whoever they are.
For those concerned about using rocket fuel on their cacti...
What I've seen in the grocery/pharmacy is in the 1-3% strength range...the rest being water. I gargle with it. Good stuff for germ killing on boo-boos and owies.
Anything over 35% gets DHS involved and I priced 50% grade @ ~$1000.00 for a 4 liter bottle.
85 to 98 % is the rocket propellant and Vernier engine fuel ..only available to qualified purchasers....whoever they are.
Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
I spray my Astrophytum seedlings with 3% Hydrogen Peroxide straight out of the bottle and then another spray of purified water every week. I don't see any problem and doesn't have any algae building up.
- mmcavall
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Thank you all.
Thank you astro_ian, so I think I can try it. The H2O2 sold here is "10 volumes", which I just discovered is 3%.
So I would spray it directly from the bottle..
I'll have to try with some seedlings before applying in all of them.
Do you rinse them with purified water just after spraying with H2O2? Or do you let it stay for some days? Not clear for me. Thanks
Thank you astro_ian, so I think I can try it. The H2O2 sold here is "10 volumes", which I just discovered is 3%.
So I would spray it directly from the bottle..
I'll have to try with some seedlings before applying in all of them.
Do you rinse them with purified water just after spraying with H2O2? Or do you let it stay for some days? Not clear for me. Thanks
- A1essandro
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
I have not big experience with sowing. 2 weeks
But I used H2O2 3% just from bottle and seedlings are ok. Seems to me fungi is much more dangerous... Also as I know H2O2 fast decomposes to water and oxygen under light influence.
But anyway... You can try to use pure 3% H2O2 to a few seedlings and monitoring reaction.
But I used H2O2 3% just from bottle and seedlings are ok. Seems to me fungi is much more dangerous... Also as I know H2O2 fast decomposes to water and oxygen under light influence.
But anyway... You can try to use pure 3% H2O2 to a few seedlings and monitoring reaction.
Best regards,
Alexander
Alexander
- greenknight
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Right, no need to rinse it off - as Alexander says, it quickly breaks down into water and oxygen.
Spence
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Ok! Thank you all again, very helpful!
Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
I use 3% hydrogen peroxide right out of the spray bottle on seedlings. Seems to be OK .
- mmcavall
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Re: H202 directly on the seedlings?
Thanks keith