Serpentine aloe

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Serpentine aloe

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Is the rather attractive serpentine growth being displayed by this Aloe a result of lack of light or is this a trait of some species unknown to me?
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What exactly do you mean by "serpentine growth" ? Something like this : ? I think it's common in aloes depending on the species.
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Are you referring to the long, slender curving leaves?
Quite a few Aloes have slender leaves, just have a look through the assortment that llifle lists: http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCC ... ceae/Aloe/
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Jangaudi wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:50 pm What exactly do you mean by "serpentine growth" ? Something like this : ? I think it's common in aloes depending on the species.
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Yes, That is what I mean by serpentine growth which I think mine exhibits.
Do you think that mine is a species that with optimum conditions, grows in this manner? and if so; do you recognize which species mine is?
OR
Do you think that it is simply light starved and reaching aloe maculata???

Maybe an Aloe bakeri ???

I gues I just want to know what it is

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esp_imaging wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:44 pm Are you referring to the long, slender curving leaves?
Quite a few Aloes have slender leaves, just have a look through the assortment that llifle lists: http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCC ... ceae/Aloe/
Great link, Mine seems to have alot in common with A. Rauhii


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I don't think it's rauhii, the markings on the leaves are rather different in character. Especially these speckled aloes are rather difficult to identify, because whenever one thinks to have found one that looks similar, you end up with finding 26 others that do as well :D There's over 550 species of aloe, so the list on llifle is just a fraction. However if it flowers you might be able to narrow it down a bit.
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Did you look only at the photo? Aloe rauhii gets only 15 cm in diameter, if lucky. Read also the descriptions if you want to have a clue.
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Jangaudi wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:50 pm What exactly do you mean by "serpentine growth" ? Something like this : ? I think it's common in aloes depending on the species.
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Is that Aloe sakarahensis? I thought I was almost the only person growing this weirdo.
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esp_imaging wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:12 am
Is that Aloe sakarahensis? I thought I was almost the only person growing this weirdo.
Actually I got this picture online, and it was marked Lomatophyllum prostratum, but I think it's sakaharensis. It's weird though because some websites consider them both the same species. I have seedlings growing from both, and they look rather different. Lovely plants though, no matter what ;)
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eduart wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:14 pm Did you look only at the photo? Aloe rauhii gets only 15 cm in diameter, if lucky. Read also the descriptions if you want to have a clue.
After a judicious amount or reading, and since no one seems to think that my plant is suffereing from a gross absence of light, I have decided to call it
Aloe Harlana
until such time as a bloom proves it to be otherwise in which case I have a note to myself to check for Aloe hemmingii or Aloe somaliensis as other possiblilities.

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esp_imaging wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:12 am
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Is that Aloe sakarahensis? I thought I was almost the only person growing this weirdo.
I'm certainly going to keep an eye out for seeds of that one. What a winner!


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To round things up ;)
Left is sakaharensis, right is prostratum....well according to the seeds I bought. It seems also that llifle is naming them wrong, unless the seed supplier has made a mistake, but I don't think so ;)
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Agaveville seems to have the same problem, 2 different species with the same name:
https://www.agaveville.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3251

The plants I have as A. sakarahensis match your first plant. I've never grown anything under the name A. prostrata.
Your second plant looks as though it's about to start spiralling and move away from juvenile leaf shape / pattern. It would be good to see it again in a few months time. Maybe it will end up looking like the other plant.
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esp_imaging wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:26 am Your second plant looks as though it's about to start spiralling and move away from juvenile leaf shape / pattern. It would be good to see it again in a few months time. Maybe it will end up looking like the other plant.
I doubt it, because I have 4 prostrata seedlings all looking the same, and the sakaharensis looks very different even as seedlings. The plant I had considered it was going to be looks like following, and the seedlings match it quite well :
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Also I found this on "Succulent-tissue-culture" website : "We received it from xxxx as L. prostratum, however we believe it is Aloe (lomatophyllum) sakaharensis.
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Fair enough! I couldn't remember what my A. sakarahensis looked like when very small, there is often a change in leaf shape and pattern over the first
few months or more.
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