Mammilaria mystax ?

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Mammilaria mystax ?

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Is this M.mystax or could it be something else? Going trough a lot of pics and descriptions on various sites , I am less ‘sure’now, than when I started.. So far it has two flowerbuds, the biggest buds I have seen on a Mammilaria ( with my limited experience)
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Reminds a lot. IMHO
Check centricirrha and compressa also.
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Mammillaria mystax is one of those Mammillarias with very variable spination. From short to long and curly in different plants.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... ajaxserp=0

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... aw%26r%3D0

Probably the most extreme long spined and attractive form.

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anttisepp wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 10:59 am Reminds a lot. IMHO
Check centricirrha and compressa also.
Thank you Anttisepp! :) From the pics I found of the two others, I think mystax seems to be a better bet.

DaveW wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 11:32 am Mammillaria mystax is one of those Mammillarias with very variable spination. From short to long and curly in different plants.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... ajaxserp=0

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... aw%26r%3D0

Probably the most extreme long spined and attractive form.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... ajaxserp=0
Thank you DaveW ! :) Certainly a variable species, if they all are the same species? The long spined form is really attractive.


From what I have read , the mystax forms/group are among the white sapped Mammilarias. I am not going to test that on my own plant voluntarily but that leads to this Mamm. Found it in a shop last year. When moving it, it bumped into something and I discovered it has white sap. Apart from that, the spines seems to tolerate almost no contact with anything , before they fall off. ( see pic)
Apart from the elongated growth form ( my plant) it looks a bit like the mystax that are pictured here on cactiguide, I think.
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This can be Mammillaria magnimamma as well.
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7george wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:18 am This can be Mammillaria magnimamma as well.
Thank you 7 george 😊 You are referring to the last one yes?

I have tried to find an overview of all whitesapped Mamms but haven’t succeded yet. Anyone knows were to look? 😊
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anttisepp wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:50 am Look: https://mammillaria.forumotion.net/
Thank you Anttisepp 😊 I did try searching for sap, latex and white sap but I only came up with one hit, which wasn’t very helpful ( the post itself)
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Mrs.Green wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 1:59 pm <…> on my own plant voluntarily but that leads to this Mamm. Found it in a shop last year. When moving it, it bumped into something and I discovered it has white sap. Apart from that, the spines seems to tolerate almost no contact with anything , before they fall off. ( see pic)
Apart from the elongated growth form ( my plant) it looks a bit like the mystax that are pictured here on cactiguide, I think.
It (2nd pic) loooks like M. woodsii (bravoe, mendeliana) - all subsp. of hahniana. :)

PS 1st pic also reminds Mammillaria priessnitzii a bit, refers often as subsp M magnimamma/centricirrha.
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Mrs.Green wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:43 am
7george wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 1:18 am This can be Mammillaria magnimamma as well.
Thank you 7 george 😊 You are referring to the last one yes?

I have tried to find an overview of all whitesapped Mamms but haven’t succeded yet. Anyone knows were to look? 😊
No, about the 1st one. It is very variable too.
https://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t121 ... magnimamma
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Thank you Anttisepp and 7george :) I have spent some time on mammilarianet and came to the conclusion that Mammilaria growers who wants to know/ learning their plants ID must be self-tormenters..😜

Going trough some pages on the ID section, well it seems to me that a lot of the plants could either be ; this, that or something completely diifferent.. And these ID’s or lack of it, came from long-time growers it seemed. Kudos to those of you who have cracked the code! 👏
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