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Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:33 pm It looks like an Aeonium cultivar.

nachtkrabb wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:13 pm Hello,
did you find out by now? I would think about Aeonium, too, by the form of the leaves.
But that information about the smell is really interesting, I never heard of that -- of any plant. Does ist still do that?
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Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:07 pm The best known species is Aeonium balsamiferum.

Many species have glandular like leaves which are hairy (also sticky), and supposedly use excretions to lower transpiration (weird).

PlantCrazy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:43 pm

Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:33 pm It looks like an Aeonium cultivar.

Thanks, Tom. That's a start.

nachtkrabb wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:02 pm

Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:07 pm The best known species is Aeonium balsamiferum.

Many species have glandular like leaves which are hairy (also sticky), and supposedly use excretions to lower transpiration (weird).

WOW! Of course I know "smells" from herbs, spices, vegetables, flowers etc. But that succulents use excretions to control their loss of water -- really weird. Never heard about that.
A.balsamiferum has a very adequate name then. Great. But the source of that name seems to be quite unknown, just as the plant: Llifle doesn't list it. Wikipedia in EN & DE usually give the source of the epitheton, but not here. Is that too weird, so that they do not dare to say so...?

How in all the world did you stumble on that information, Tom? Do you breed that Aeonium, or similar plants? Would you like to tell?

BTW: These days the smell on my balcony might have changed. Sometimes I look out for opened flowers which I do not find, but it is always just a whiff. Also there are a lot more flies than usual. I will sniff & snoop around like a bloodhound to find out if its one of my (new?) plants. Until now I hadn't thought of that possiility.
Thanks,
Nachtkrabb aka Snoopy

nachtkrabb wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:44 pm Hello Tom,
thank you for the information, so I won't expect ANY answer by PlantCrazy.
Sorry, I never questioned the name of Aeonium balsamiferum. I was just astonished, that 1. it wasn't listet at Llifle & 2. that I read nowhere about the smell as cause of the name.
Does that Dudleya also have an interesting scent? Do you know?
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Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:37 pm I used to grow it in San Diego, and although I can vouch for it's stickiness, I have no memory of any flagrance. I got rid of a large part of my collection before moving to Tucson (for various reasons), and it was one of many to go.

Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:37 pm I don't think the species is controversial

Aeonium2003 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:38 pm

Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:37 pm I don't think the species is controversial

Yes, A. balsamiferum is an accepted species. As far as I know it has no synonyms (other than when Aeoniums were classified as Sempervivum).

See: https://www.crassulaceae.ch/de/artikel? ... B&aID=3025

About scented Aeoniums,
A. balsamiferum has pubescent leaves, and a distinct aroma.
A. canariense and goochiae and some of their hybrids also have distinct smells.
A. xsantosianum (a hybrid of goochiae and canariense v. palmense) has a distinct coniferous smell.
some A. canariense hybrids like A. 'Blushing Beauty' and A. 'Velour' (which are hybrids of A. canariense and A. arboreum 'Zwartkop') have similar smells to A. balsamiverum.

As for sticky Aeoniums, glandulosum and glutinosum are some of the stickiest. I've noticed flies getting stuck to A. glutinosum .

P.S. interesting to hear about D. viscida, Tom. I hope to grow that species some day.

Aeonium2003 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:38 pm (...) I've noticed flies getting stuck to A. glutinosum . (...)

Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:24 pm (...) As to Dudleya viscida, it's not a terribly exciting member of the genus. One thing that could be considered annoying about it is it's tendency to collect a lot of wind-born debris on the leaves acting a lot like fly paper.