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Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:49 pm
by yans111
Hello :salute:
I'm Eugene and I'm a fifth-year student and I'm writing my thesis about cacti and their species
I would like you to help me with some statistical questions
Please tell me what kind of cactus you have and how many cacti at home of all species? :study:
Thank you so much in advance! \:D/

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:05 pm
by nachtkrabb
Hallo yans,
no answers yet? I will pm you.
Nachtkrabb.

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:53 am
by Minnesota
Hi, yans,

Some easy material to offer, but likely statistically skewed:

Ariocarpus scapharostrus 5
Ariocarpus confusus 3
Ariocarpus agavoides 8
Ariocarpus fissuratus 18
Ariocarpus retusus pectinatus 29
Ariocarpus retusus 38
Ariocarpus furfuraceous 4
Ariocarpus bravoanus 10
Ariocarpus hintonii 4
Ariocarpus lloydii 7
Lophophora williamsii 10
Aloe 1
Echeveria roseata 1
Epiphytic 1
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Hope that you can put this to use. Best on your thesis.

Bret

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:23 am
by DaveW
I have around 900 plants in most cactus genera in my greenhouse, therefore far too many to list. I don't grow any "Other Succulents". Our collections in the UK range from a few plants on a windowsill to the few larger collections with well over 1000 plants. The Continentals and E, European collections are similar sized I believe. I think with collectors you stop counting past a certain point and just guess how many you have. Rather like primitive tribal arithmetic that goes "1 to ten" and when you run out of fingers "many"!

You can get an idea of many UK greenhouse collections with the greenhouse tours in the second link below.

An example of one of our larger specialist collections of just Rebutia/Aylostera and Sulcorebutia. Good luck working the statistics out for that. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiG_elNGsqI

More here if you search for collection tours: -

https://forum.bcss.org.uk/viewforum.php ... caf6faf030

So called "National Collections" in the UK are usually owned by registered amateur enthusiastic private individuals, seldom State or Public Institutions since those tend to be general collections for the public rather than comprehensive ultra-specialist botanical collections.

https://www.plantheritage.org.uk/nation ... llections/

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:16 pm
by DaveW
Should have added you may also get some idea of collections size in Members Blogs.

viewforum.php?f=31

I think you have probably already realised you will have troubles compiling meaningful statistics on so many diverse members collections. You would probably have more luck compiling the average numbers of recognised species in a genus or with classification itself, but that would also vary according to which authority on classification you used. The two main classifications in use at present are David Hunts "New Cactus Lexicon" and Joel Lode's "Taxonomy of the Cactaceae". but these are expensive if you don't have library access to them.

As an example of Joel Lode's classification.

http://cactus-aventures.com/Taxonomy_of ... errata.pdf

Anyway, good luck with your thesis.

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:54 pm
by nachtkrabb
Here we go: List of currently living plants. As I am not clear if you mean "botanical cactus" or "commonplace cactus" = "succulents", I added both. With the cacti-genus I added one "real cactus" at the end, although there may be more than one line.
There are tabs between the columns.

Genus Species Subspecies Botanist No. of Living Plants
Adenium arabicum Balf.f. 1
Adromischus cooperi (Baker) A.Berger 1
Adromischus cristatus (Haw.) Lem. 2
Aloe arborescens Mill. 1
Aloe ferox Mill. 1
Aloe juvenna Brandham & S.Carter 1
Aloe maculata (saponaria) (Aiton) Haw 1
Anacampseros filamentosa (Haw.) Sims 1
Aristaloe aristata (Haw.) Boatwr. & J.C.Manning 3
Astrophytum asterias cv. Kultivare 2 real cactus
Astrophytum capricorne F.A.C.Weber in Bois 1
Astrophytum myriostigma var. nudum 1
Astrophytum ornatum F.A.C.Weber in Bois 2
Beaucarnea recurvata Lem. 1
Caralluma hesperidum Maire 2
Cereus hildmannianus K.Schum. 1 real cactus
Cereus repandus (L.) Mill. 1
Crassula arborescens (Mill.) Willd. 2
Crassula muscosa var. variegata P.V.Heath 2
Crassula ovata (Mill.) Druce 2
Crassula ovata cv. Gollum --- 4
Crassula pyramidalis Thunb. 1
Crassula pyramidalis x falcata (Kimnachi) --- 1
Crassula rupestris L.f. 1
Crassula rupestris ssp. marnieriana (Friedr.) Toelken 1
Cycas revoluta Thunb. 1
Cylindropuntia - unknown - --- 1 real cactus
Dorstenia foetida (Forssk.) Schweinf. 1
Echinopsis - unknown - --- 1 real cactus
Echinopsis subdenudata Cárdenas 1
Epiphyllum - unknown 1 - (div.) --- 2 real cactus
Epiphyllum - unknown 2 - (div.) --- 2
Euphorbia ferox Marloth 1
Euphorbia globosa Haw. 1
Euphorbia inermis Mill. 1
Euphorbia neocrispa Bruyns 1
Euphorbia pseudocactus A.Berger 1
Ferocactus glaucescens (DC.) Britton & Rose 1 real cactus
Ferocactus histrix (A.DC.) G.E.Linds. 1
Ferocactus pilosus var. pilosus (Galeotti) Werderm. 1
Graptopetalum Hybride --- 1
Graptopetalum paraguayense (N.E.Br.) E.Walther 3
Gymnocalycium horstii ssp. buenekeri (Swales) P.J.Braun & Hofacker 1 real cactus
Gymnocalycium pflanzii var. zegarrae (Cárdenas) G.J.Charles 1
Gymnocalycium saglionis (Cels) Britton & Rose 1
Hatiora salicornioides Britton & Rose 2
Haworthia attenuata cv. Alba o. Wide Zebra --- 1
Haworthia cooperi Baker 1
Haworthia cooperi var. leightonii (G.G.Sm.) M.B.Bayer 1
Haworthia cooperi var. truncata (H.Jacobsen) M.B.Bayer 1
Haworthia cymbiformis (Haw.) Duval 2
Haworthia fasciata (Willd.) Haw. 2
Haworthia reinwardtii (Salm-Dyck) Haw. 1
Haworthia truncata Schönland 1
Huernia keniensis var. grandiflora P.R.O.Bally 1
Jovibarba globifera ssp. globifera L. 1
Kalanchoe daigremontiana Raym.-Hamet & H. Perrier 1
Kedrostis africana (L.) Cogn. 1
Kleinia stapeliiformis (E.Phillips) Stapf 2
Leucojum aestivum L. 1
Lewisia cotyledon cv. Mountain Dreams --- 1
Lobivia famatinensis (Speg.) Britton & Rose 1
Lobivia hertrichiana Backeb. 1
Lophophora williamsii (Lem. ex Salm-Dyck) J.M. Coult. 2
Mammillaria bombycina Quehl 1 real cactus
Mammillaria hahniana Werderm. 1
Mammillaria karwinskiana ssp. beiselii (Diers) D.R.Hunt 1
Mammillaria karwinskiana ssp. karwinskiana Mart. 1
Mammillaria karwinskiana ssp. nejapensis (R.T.Craig & E.Y.Dawson) D.R.Hunt 1
Mammillaria rhodantha ssp. pringlei (J.M.Coult.) D.R.Hunt 1
Mammillaria spinosissima Lem. 1
Mammillaria spinosissima ssp. pilcayensis (Bravo) D.R. Hunt 1
Mammillaria spinosissima cv. Un Pico --- 3
Mammillaria vetula ssp. gracilis (Pfeiff.) D.R.Hunt 2
Matucana madisoniorum (Hutchison) G.D. Rowley 1 real cactus
Myrtillocactus geometrizans (Mart. ex Pfeiff.) Console 1 real cactus
Nopalxochia phyllanthoides (DC.) Barthlott 1 real cactus
Opuntia polyacantha Haw. 1 real cactus
Orbea variegata (L.) Haw. 2
Pachyphytum compactum Rose 1
Pachypodium lamerei Drake 1
Pachypodium sukkulentum (Jacq.) Sweet 1
Pachyveria x cv. Clavifolia Haage & Schmidt 1
Parodia magnifica (F.Ritter) F.H.Brandt 1 real cactus
Parodia warasii (F.Ritter) F.H.Brandt 2
Petrosedum erectum (t' Hart) Grulich 1
Petrosedum sediforme (Jacq.) Grulich 3
Rebutia fabrisii Rausch 1 real cactus
Sedum album L. 2
Sedum morganianum E.Walther 1
Sedum pachyphyllum Rose 1
Selenicereus - unknown 2 - --- 1 real cactus
Selenicereus coniflorus (Weing.) Britton & Rose 1
Selenicereus donkelaari (Salm-Dyck) Britton & Rose 1
Selenicereus grandiflorus (L.) Britton & Rose 1
Sempervivum grün, rote Spitzen, roter Grund 3
Sempervivum marmoreum Griseb. 1
Stapelia - unknown - --- 1
Stapelia grandiflora Masson 1
Stapelia leendertziae N.E.Br. 1
Stenocactus multicostatus (A.W.Hill) A.Berger 1 real cactus
Stenocereus pruinosus (Otto ex Pfeiff.) Buxb. 1
Stetsonia coryne (Salm-Dyck) Britton & Rose 1 real cactus
Sulcorebutia dorana Gertel 1 real cactus
Sulcorebutia tarabucoensis Rausch 1
Tephrocactus articulatus var. papyracanthus (Phil.) Backeb 2 real cactus
Tylecodon wallichii (Harv.) Toelken 1

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:56 pm
by nachtkrabb
Statistics:
currently 151 succulents of 117 genus.
The average age is 8 years, 10 months.
The "Methusalem" is a Pachypodium lamerei (succulent, not cactus) of 24.5 years.
The oldest "real cactus" is a Mammillaria karwinskiana nejapensis with 23.5 years.

Hope that helps? -- Again: Good luck.
N.

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:43 pm
by DaveW
He has not logged on again since October 3rd when he originally posted! If you click on a member's name under their avatar (picture) their profile will come up with the last date they were active on the forum.

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:46 pm
by nachtkrabb
DaveW wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:43 pm He has not logged on again since October 3rd when he originally posted! (...)
Now really??? And everybody making such a fuss.
Well, probably he had thought that we were just waiting to give him the dope, and when we didn't, he lost interest.

Thank you for the tip, DaveW.
N.

Re: Tell me what kind of cactus you have

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:03 pm
by Minnesota
hahahahaha...one has to admit, the impassioned cultivation of cacti is not the total aspiration of everyone. Perhaps he lost interest, or found a more reasonable topic.

Bret