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Three mammillarias

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:39 pm
by Astrophyto
Hello, any help, appreciated

Re: Three mammillarias

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:52 pm
by anttisepp
2 mystax
3 backebergiana

Re: Three mammillarias

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:30 pm
by Tom in Tucson
1 Mammillaria spinosissima subs. pilcayensis

Re: Three mammillarias

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:43 pm
by anttisepp
Tom in Tucson wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:30 pm 1 Mammillaria spinosissima subs. pilcayensis
- spinosissima with hooked spines? :shock:

Re: Three mammillarias

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:34 pm
by Astrophyto
anttisepp wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:43 pm
Tom in Tucson wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:30 pm 1 Mammillaria spinosissima subs. pilcayensis
- spinosissima with hooked spines? :shock:
Hello, I've been searching photos and the spinossisima's I've seen have no hooks, maybe it is this one another subs. different than pilcayensis?

Thank you

Re: Three mammillarias

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:42 pm
by Tom in Tucson
I've grown many plants of this genus. Sometimes hybrids are a possibility, so you can never be positive on an ID. The reason I gave my assessment was because that species is likely involved with something similar. Many times you can find occasional hooked spines on Mammillaria spinosissima. It's relatives have a variable number of hooked spines such as M. nunezii, M. crassior, M. guerreronis, and finally with a numerous amount such as M. magnifica. I hope I didn't "muddy the waters" too much.

Re: Three mammillarias

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:50 pm
by mmcavall
Interesting. At first sight I said to myself "pilcayensis". Next I saw the hooked spines and said "no".
Interesting to think in hybridization with the more closedly related species of the same group.

On the other hand: there is not any other Mammillaria with hooked spines it could be? I mean, more likely than assuming hydridization?

There are so many Mammillarias...I couldn't tell whether these plant doesn't fit in a "pure" species or not...just giving material for discussion here.